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Hopper io by Hopper Labs

MoltenTiger

Member
Messages
7
the io is a dope cannon

I just tried out some direct tokes with the front end. I guess it does seem different in some way to the original. I'll further investigate soon. Largely, the rapid intake just allows huge hits before the device/front-end heats up. It's more efficient. I think the insulation is improved and the efficiency too. The herb heats up instead of anything else, which was always a potential problem with the original design.

Another cool feature I found was the magnetic charger now latches into place with a retaining lip clipping to the middle ring contact. It's really secure, takes a bit more effort to connect but is much more convincing. The back end is really premium. The whole unit seems sealed up and ultra polished. It's the version of the hopper everyone wanted, taking all the problems into account and turning it into pure gold

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Using it direct, if you take a decent hit, leave it on and quickly take another, it gets pretty hot. But, you can switch it off and still get two or so tokes. The heater retains heat amazingly well.

I found the trick to huge bong hits was to start with a very slow inhale speed for a short time, and then slowly ramping up speed before inhaling as intensely as possible and then switching off before clearing the piece. It works like magic.

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Pretty happy I decided to opt in. Of course the real test is longevity, but it does seem overall more polished, and dare I say trustworthy.
 
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deeznutslol

New Member
Messages
2
Request please to have posts like this removed?
He's purposely trying to drain my bank account.

I doubt I last through the weekend hearing that I can have a new vape in less than 5 days.... I don't even know if I'll last now...

Edit: ew that fast? I thought you got it Friday.... Did you just do standard shipping? Damn... I'm about to order something knowing full well they won't give me the batteries I ask for.....

Edit 2: if I don't order now it won't ship today....
lol, should’ve mentioned I live in CO, but still didn’t expect it that fast without priority shipping.

Also, I emailed them before to make sure I could get extra batteries, and they said they were limiting orders to 1 extra battery for now. I’m assuming my email made them ship it out quicker, idk.

Unless you have the disposable income I wouldn’t buy it due to HL, but I will say it’s pretty much my perfect vape so far.

get about 4-5 bowls per battery, charges pretty quick.
 

Abcd5432

Active Member
Messages
44
lol, should’ve mentioned I live in CO, but still didn’t expect it that fast without priority shipping.

Also, I emailed them before to make sure I could get extra batteries, and they said they were limiting orders to 1 extra battery for now. I’m assuming my email made them ship it out quicker, idk.

Unless you have the disposable income I wouldn’t buy it due to HL, but I will say it’s pretty much my perfect vape so far.

get about 4-5 bowls per battery, charges pretty quick.
Just saw on reddit that the colored ones aren't available. Darn... Why doesn't it just say out of stock....
 

JCat

Well-known Member
Accessory Maker
Messages
51
Location
Ontario, Canada
Just saw on reddit that the colored ones aren't available. Darn... Why doesn't it just say out of stock....
How would they be able to charge you for something 1-5 years in advance if they said out of stock? Saying out of stock wouldn’t mislead anyone into buying something they will not get for years! :lol:
 

Magicman

Well-known Member
Messages
27
the io is a dope cannon

I just tried out some direct tokes with the front end. I guess it does seem different in some way to the original. I'll further investigate soon. Largely, the rapid intake just allows huge hits before the device/front-end heats up. It's more efficient. I think the insulation is improved and the efficiency too. The herb heats up instead of anything else, which was always a potential problem with the original design.

Another cool feature I found was the magnetic charger now latches into place with a retaining lip clipping to the middle ring contact. It's really secure, takes a bit more effort to connect but is much more convincing. The back end is really premium. The whole unit seems sealed up and ultra polished. It's the version of the hopper everyone wanted, taking all the problems into account and turning it into pure gold

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Using it direct, if you take a decent hit, leave it on and quickly take another, it gets pretty hot. But, you can switch it off and still get two or so tokes. The heater retains heat amazingly well.

I found the trick to huge bong hits was to start with a very slow inhale speed for a short time, and then slowly ramping up speed before inhaling as intensely as possible and then switching off before clearing the piece. It works like magic.

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Pretty happy I decided to opt in. Of course the real test is longevity, but it does seem overall more polished, and dare I say trustworthy.
Damn! I haven't even tried the PFE yet, because it is on the TI Grasshopper.
 

sativs

Well-known Member
Messages
57
Location
Vapeland
got my io days ago :)

it is my first device from HL. After some sessions I can not say so much, unless it is very good.

But the frontend gets very, very hot on the lips, which makes it almost impossible to kill a load without taking breaks. there helps the silicone mouthpiece a little bit.

What helps is to do a glass tube from RBT or TM before. Thanks for the tip @MoltenTiger

without silicone mouthpiece of which I luckily have some pieces is in my opionion the Hopper not usable and it would be disappointing at all or with glass tube before or with bong. but i only vape without bong. so it's ok and good.

I have some machine oil inside from the frontend and some inside from the herbal chamber from the hopper. after cleanig with isopropanol remain the stains. but i will want to see over it.

In all it is a very very nice inconspicuous vaporizer which looks fantatsic but not so practiable to using like the TM for me.

The Extraction is fantastic ! overall I'm very happy :)

Edit: i cant see or noticed a differnce between the old and new Frontend for now. but i dont removed the screen from the new one yet.
 
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vapviking

Old and In the Way
Messages
111
Location
USA
Just saw on reddit that the colored ones aren't available. Darn... Why doesn't it just say out of stock....
Did HL post something informative on reddit? Or did someone just say, "unavailable"? That's not what it says on the io website. There, it says Estimated Ship Time July 2020.
Of course, that's just an estimate. :/

One reason they might not say "out of stock" could be that that the item has not yet been "in stock".

It would be like saying the SS Case is not in stock, when really it's just never been built in 5+ years.
 
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Vaporific

Well-known Member
Messages
73
Of course, that's just an estimate. :/

One reason they might not say "out of stock" could be that that the item has not yet been "in stock".
From past experience, which continues to this day, HL’s estimates are to be taken with a grain of salt.

The steel case and Hopper Battery Charger have been for sale for like, forever, and has anyone seen these lately if ever? I do recall a few HBCs sold and in the wild but very few. Same thing from HL: collect money and sit on it before sending anything out to customers claiming all sorts of excuses.

Sill want an IO but I’d rather get my batteries first for my legacy Hopper before I throw more money at HL. The waiting continues. Also waiting for their presence herein but I won’t hold my breath for this. :peace:
 

sammac

New Member
Messages
3
I started having issues with my clicker this weekend. Sometimes when I click it - it doesn't turn on and sometimes it doesn't turn off. Also, I hold it similar to how I hold a pencil and use my pointer finger to click and the sideways pressure can sometimes turn it off and on without clicking. I am still loving how it is hitting but I am worried. Hopefully I am a lone case of this. Anyone else experienced anything similar?
 

vapviking

Old and In the Way
Messages
111
Location
USA
I started having issues with my clicker this weekend. Sometimes when I click it - it doesn't turn on and sometimes it doesn't turn off. Also, I hold it similar to how I hold a pencil and use my pointer finger to click and the sideways pressure can sometimes turn it off and on without clicking. I am still loving how it is hitting but I am worried. Hopefully I am a lone case of this. Anyone else experienced anything similar?
Sounds very similar to issues I've had with some OG's back end(s). The "turn itself on" part is disturbing and I'm not comfortable with one of them in a pocket or in wife's purse unless I put it in a leather sleeve for some protection against this behavior.
 

Stonedbadger

Active Member
Messages
25
@sammac sorry to hear about your problems with your Hopper IO, but thanks for sharing them. I hope HL treats you right, but I would understand your concerns.

It's a real shame that HL haven't joined new FC to provide updates and feedback, maybe they found a convenient excuse to stop posting. Hopefully this will change if the sites are merged in the future.
 

Vaporific

Well-known Member
Messages
73
Hopefully this will change if the sites are merged in the future.
I don’t think the moderators will merge the sites and I’m speculating on this. The fact that HL either doesn’t know to sign up for this new site or won’t after several weeks speaks volumes that their heads are still in the sand, likely again eating crow over the latest supply issues and delays - particularly the batteries (AHEM) that power the vapes (IO and Hopper), lack of cash, etc. :peace:
 
Vaporific,

Abcd5432

Active Member
Messages
44
How would they be able to charge you for something 1-5 years in advance if they said out of stock? Saying out of stock wouldn’t mislead anyone into buying something they will not get for years! :lol:
I had to click in to see the estimated ship of July.

You guys are all mean showing off your hoppers and how good it is.... I'm just going to break down and order it and some bongs.....

Well this and the tiny might are way better form factors than the minivap. I really shouldn't complain. These were the upgrades I was looking for. I wanted something that wasn't so heavy. Now I need some 14mm bongs.... I broke all of mine except the lmz mini taurus. Like that will last.....

Also @deeznutslol literally said I have no disposable income if I don't order.... You're all bullying me!
Did HL post something informative on reddit? Or did someone just say, "unavailable"? That's not what it says on the io website. There, it says Estimated Ship Time July 2020.
Of course, that's just an estimate. :/

One reason they might not say "out of stock" could be that that the item has not yet been "in stock".

It would be like saying the SS Case is not in stock, when really it's just never been built in 5+ years.
Some said they asked for an eta and they were given 30-60 days. So I'm betting that July shop date is really gonna be August or later.

Just my guess given hopper labs
 
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sativs

Well-known Member
Messages
57
Location
Vapeland
what i do not understand is
why HL ordered not 5000 pieces of Batteries or more (and thats in the best some years in the past -but past is pastand if they change it we dont must speak about the past i think) to make all customers happy. to get only some pieces are to low for all vapers
and they can so make money too
 
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Vaporific

Well-known Member
Messages
73
Well this and the tiny might are way better form factors than the minivap.
There’s a Hopper vs. Tinymight thread here on NewFC: Tinymight vs Grasshopper. I’ve opined a bit there (TM wins in my book on several factors). It would be interesting to compare the TM to the IO and hope someone (not me - yet) can do so soon. Love the on-demand function of both though. Cheers. :peace:
 

sativs

Well-known Member
Messages
57
Location
Vapeland
There’s a Hopper vs. Tinymight thread here on NewFC: Tinymight vs Grasshopper. I’ve opined a bit there (TM wins in my book on several factors). It would be interesting to compare the TM to the IO and hope someone (not me - yet) can do so soon. Love the on-demand function of both though. Cheers. :peace:
I was going to do that soon anyway. will do it today at the latest tomorrow but I can say so much that my impressions totally with your blankets!
 

Magicman

Well-known Member
Messages
27
got my io days ago :)

it is my first device from HL. After some sessions I can not say so much, unless it is very good.

But the frontend gets very, very hot on the lips, which makes it almost impossible to kill a load without taking breaks. there helps the silicone mouthpiece a little bit.

What helps is to do a glass tube from RBT or TM before. Thanks for the tip @MoltenTiger

without silicone mouthpiece of which I luckily have some pieces is in my opionion the Hopper not usable and it would be disappointing at all or with glass tube before or with bong. but i only vape without bong. so it's ok and good.

I have some machine oil inside from the frontend and some inside from the herbal chamber from the hopper. after cleanig with isopropanol remain the stains. but i will want to see over it.

In all it is a very very nice inconspicuous vaporizer which looks fantatsic but not so practiable to using like the TM for me.

The Extraction is fantastic ! overall I'm very happy :)

Edit: i cant see or noticed a differnce between the old and new Frontend for now. but i dont removed the screen from the new one yet.
The IO is way cooler than my Grasshopper Ti. I am trying Performance Front End tonight.
 

Vapor Eyes

taste buds
Messages
77
Location
On Demand Convection Land
what i do not understand is
why HL ordered not 5000 pieces of Batteries or more (and thats in the best some years in the past -but past is pastand if they change it we dont must speak about the past i think) to make all customers happy. to get only some pieces are to low for all vapers
and they can so make money too
It is standard procedure when dealing with a new manufacturer to do a small test run as proof of production. This is different than the pre-production sample batch which is much smaller, generally only a few pieces, and simply proves they can produce the product. The purpose of a small test run is to show that the manufacturer can produce the product at scale with the desired materials and specifications. Or HL could just be broke. :shrug:

I would expect the next batch of batteries to be much larger. It would be nice to get an official update on the expected delivery date.

I started having issues with my clicker this weekend. Sometimes when I click it - it doesn't turn on and sometimes it doesn't turn off. Also, I hold it similar to how I hold a pencil and use my pointer finger to click and the sideways pressure can sometimes turn it off and on without clicking. I am still loving how it is hitting but I am worried. Hopefully I am a lone case of this. Anyone else experienced anything similar?
I’ve experienced similar issues with my OG Grasshoppers. I first tried cleaning the backend threads and contacts with no success. It sounds counter-intuitive but what eventually worked was thoroughly cleaning the frontend threads on the body and mouthpiece, it solved the problem completely. A clean hopper is a happy hopper in my experience.
 
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Dac13

New Member
Messages
2
I asked support about getting extra batteries since my IO shipped without one and I paid for an extra one to boot. I'm down to 1 battery which is 3 years old and it's on its last leg.

They said no they don't have any available and then said they have a new batch of batteries being finished in July and then shipped to them... So I'm guessing it'll drag out to August/September before anyone sees batteries from that batch. Hopefully they ordered more this time.

on their site the batteries still say estimated shipping in June....
 

JCat

Well-known Member
Accessory Maker
Messages
51
Location
Ontario, Canada
I asked support about getting extra batteries since my IO shipped without one and I paid for an extra one to boot. I'm down to 1 battery which is 3 years old and it's on its last leg.

They said no they don't have any available and then said they have a new batch of batteries being finished in July and then shipped to them... So I'm guessing it'll drag out to August/September before anyone sees batteries from that batch. Hopefully they ordered more this time.

on their site the batteries still say estimated shipping in June....
Wow. Worst company ever.

Edit: I'm sure if you order another IO they will send you a battery! After all, who doesn't want a $300 disposable device, where when the battery is dead, you have to buy a new one.

Edit Edit: If you send it in for your lifetime warranty service though, they'll be sure to get it back to you in a year or 2, after which you surely won't have any functional batteries and will HAVE to buy an IO v2 or whatever they decide to call the next one to get another battery.
 
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Stonedbadger

Active Member
Messages
25
I asked support about getting extra batteries since my IO shipped without one and I paid for an extra one to boot. I'm down to 1 battery which is 3 years old and it's on its last leg.

They said no they don't have any available and then said they have a new batch of batteries being finished in July and then shipped to them... So I'm guessing it'll drag out to August/September before anyone sees batteries from that batch. Hopefully they ordered more this time.

on their site the batteries still say estimated shipping in June....
Maybe message @VGoodiez I saw on Instagram that he was going to be working with HL. Hopefully he could sort something out for you?
 

Vaporific

Well-known Member
Messages
73
Wow. Worst company ever.

Edit: I'm sure if you order another IO they will send you a battery! After all, who doesn't want a $300 disposable device, where when the battery is dead, you have to buy a new one.

Edit Edit: If you send it in for your lifetime warranty service though, they'll be sure to get it back to you in a year or 2, after which you surely won't have any functional batteries and will HAVE to buy an IO v2 or whatever they decide to call the next one to get another battery.
LOL! It’s called planned obsolescence. Learned this in high school moons ago. There was a glimmer of hope late last summer (‘19) going into Fall that they started to come around - reduced RMA backlog, waiting for the large battery shipment from China, speculation about a new device (the IO), and more presence on old FC - and then the fire happened and things returned to normal (for them): SSDD - same shit different day. They’re so convinced this type of battery is the best when it’s clearly not, and I’ll attest I’ve had some bad ones out of the gate among a few different groups I’ve purchased. Now you can barely get one new one, if you’re lucky and the moon is in retrograde.

SSDD, SSDD...

Sorry I’m in an antagonistic mode the last few days. HL is such a foil for this though. :peace:
 

Mushlove2u

New Member
Messages
2
My IO and PFE are coming on Friday! I swapped to plain Ti after talking to them on Sunday. Another 30-60 days for color, I’m done waiting. My legacy has been in warranty for 2 years! I don’t give a poo about color at this point. I have my galaxy camo simrell stem for my dynavap, I can always lol at that!!! Cheers!
 
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