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The Mighty by Storz & Bickel

DaboOZ

New Member
Messages
8
Location
Montréal
Let us know what you think if you get one, seems this is a NEWER V2 version. The original did not get very good reviews from Troy (420vapezone), and a few other reviews I read. Costly, rough fit, no appreciable cooling difference, was what I remember, so I passed. Maybe new model addressed those issues?
They say they have changed the more complex steam path and fix the closure problem ...
In 1 or 2 months I will buy it, I would say my report on the forum.
 

SquirrelMaster

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Messages
91
Location
Canada
They say they have changed the more complex steam path and fix the closure problem ...
In 1 or 2 months I will buy it, I would say my report on the forum.
I don't know if the marketing changed for the V2 but they say the vapor is denser which I'm trying to wrap my head around. Could just be marketing.

"In the end, the airflow or airflow has necessarily undergone some modifications, but what impact does this have on the vapor output? We noted a slightly higher extraction efficiency which allows to generate a denser vapor but in return the sessions will be a little shorter! However, the change of airflow is not particularly noticeable when you inhale and keep the air side of the Mighty."
 

RustyOldNail

Well-known Member
Messages
96
Placed an order for Mighty accessories 1 month ago from their USA website (things not in stock in the online stores I normally use). 2 weeks later I emailed about any shipping updates, and was told they go out no later then 30 days from ordering, and now, 32 days later, I see a shipping LABEL has been created. Just updating this for those that have been asking about their shipping times.
5 DAYS later, still just a “shipping label”, I ordered a different product from California, received it in 3 days, Covid didn’t seem to effect that package. So going on FIVE WEEKS, for S&B. Thankfully, I don’t need these accessories right away, just posting for those still waiting on anything directly from S&B. Not sure what excuse they have.....
 
RustyOldNail,

Jbm

Active Member
Messages
25
5 DAYS later, still just a “shipping label”, I ordered a different product from California, received it in 3 days, Covid didn’t seem to effect that package. So going on FIVE WEEKS, for S&B. Thankfully, I don’t need these accessories right away, just posting for those still waiting on anything directly from S&B. Not sure what excuse they have.....
I happened to be poking around the S&B site about a month ago to see if there were any Mighty+ clues, and I noticed that a small order of a couple caddies and magazines I placed last November (which I have since received, though S&B never sent a tracking number, it just showed up one day) was still listed as "processing." It took the order more than a month to arrive, despite repeated emails to them, most of which were answered by entreaties to understand how busy they were during the holiday season. The order was placed Thanksgiving weekend.

That experience made me less than likely to order direct from them in future. I ordered a Mighty from Puffitup that same weekend, and it arrived the following Monday.

Edit: Just now checked again for shits and giggles. Still listed as "Processing." Order was placed last November 30th. Six and a half months ago.
 

invertedisdead

Gem Stoner
Messages
126
Location
Ye Olde FC
Damn that sucks, I have a unit I need to send in for the screen problem and I'm not feeling super confident about it now.
 
invertedisdead,

RustyOldNail

Well-known Member
Messages
96
I happened to be poking around the S&B site about a month ago to see if there were any Mighty+ clues, and I noticed that a small order of a couple caddies and magazines I placed last November (which I have since received, though S&B never sent a tracking number, it just showed up one day) was still listed as "processing." It took the order more than a month to arrive, despite repeated emails to them, most of which were answered by entreaties to understand how busy they were during the holiday season. The order was placed Thanksgiving weekend.

That experience made me less than likely to order direct from them in future. I ordered a Mighty from Puffitup that same weekend, and it arrived the following Monday.

Edit: Just now checked again for shits and giggles. Still listed as "Processing." Order was placed last November 30th. Six and a half months ago.
Well in my case they created a shipping label, therefore I have a tracking number. But until they actually bring it to the P.O., it just sits....
 
RustyOldNail,

vapviking

Old and In the Way
Messages
111
Location
USA
Can anyone direct me to a tutorial on posting pictures (removing meta-data, etc. and the posting procedures for newFC)?
I anticipate popping the hood on Mighty very soon, since the new batteries from @JCat have finally hit my home post office!
Yesterday I cut open the screw holes and found a 'close enough' hex wrench. Finally procured some 99% iso alcohol last week (that's been scarce around these parts...). Only wish I had a replacement chamber bowl to put in there.

Damn that sucks, I have a unit I need to send in for the screen problem and I'm not feeling super confident about it now.
What is "the screen problem?"
 

SquirrelMaster

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Messages
91
Location
Canada
Can anyone direct me to a tutorial on posting pictures (removing meta-data, etc. and the posting procedures for newFC)?
I anticipate popping the hood on Mighty very soon, since the new batteries from @JCat have finally hit my home post office!
Yesterday I cut open the screw holes and found a 'close enough' hex wrench. Finally procured some 99% iso alcohol last week (that's been scarce around these parts...). Only wish I had a replacement chamber bowl to put in there.


What is "the screen problem?"
If you're using an android phone you can remove EXIF with a free app "Photo EXIF Editor". On Win10 you can right click on the photo and go into properties to remove all personal data.

For hosting there are a few good sites, I've been using www.imgbb.com and it's served me well. You can also upload photos directly to NFC but you have to watch your file size I believe.
 

invertedisdead

Gem Stoner
Messages
126
Location
Ye Olde FC
Same here, it goes in and out. It's never been outside, never had direct sunlight on it. 7 months old.
Yup, I don't really recall people talking about it much either so I was surprised to look it up online and see it's somewhat of a common issue with these. The problem doesn't seem to go back in time near as long as the Mighty has been around for, so it appears to be an issue with more recent Mighty's.
 

vapviking

Old and In the Way
Messages
111
Location
USA
Yesterday I went through my tear down of Mighty (purchased Oct. 2015). After problems with 4 Crafty's over 2 years, S&B let me upgrade to Mighty for $60. Batteries were down to giving about 4 bowls/charge.

I received a pair of 3,000 mah's set-up by @JCat and put them in. He did a beautiful job and they went in "easily". Everything in there is very tight and the fit is very fussy. I managed to break the case in only 2 3 places; pretty good for me! Miraculously, when re-assembled and screws tightened, it is snugly 'together'. I'm quite concerned about a fatal drop in the future, but I did complete the task at hand. I also opened the heater tube and cleaned inside of that and the vapor tube. Draw is now slightly more open; I think iso soaking the vapor tube/chamber assembly was a good thing.

I will post some photos soon. Unfortunately some of the events went un-photographed. When something goes wrong I get too busy digging my way out of the hole I'm in! Like that internal o-ring inside the heater tube that broke and I macguyver'd with some high temp whip tubing...
I should have at least measured the original o-ring for the record...anyone going through this process should plan to replace it, so I regret not documenting that part. It's not part of the standard "wear and tear" kit.

Will be writing & posting more with the pics.

Oh, I didn't check heat-up with first bowl, but on third it went from ambient to 180c in 1:22. Not to shabby...

If you're using an android phone you can remove EXIF with a free app "Photo EXIF Editor". On Win10 you can right click on the photo and go into properties to remove all personal data.

For hosting there are a few good sites, I've been using www.imgbb.com and it's served me well. You can also upload photos directly to NFC but you have to watch your file size I believe.
Super. Thanks.
If I upload to imgbb, do I then copy/paste them into dialog box? Or do I use the "insert image (ctrl P)" button to link the url?
Or could it be "Insert Media?" Or "Insert File?" I do get myself tied up in ??? sometimes...
 

Stu

maconheiro fascista
Staff Member
Messages
98
Location
southeast of disorder
If I upload to imgbb, do I then copy/paste them into dialog box? Or do I use the "insert image (ctrl P)" button to link the url?
Or could it be "Insert Media?" Or "Insert File?" I do get myself tied up in ??? sometimes...
The easiest way is to hit the insert image icon and just drag and drop the image into the dialog box or choose the "upload image" option. If you want to use imgbb or another image host first, you would simply select "by url" when using the insert image icon.

:peace:
 

SquirrelMaster

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Messages
91
Location
Canada
The easiest way is to hit the insert image icon and just drag and drop the image into the dialog box or choose the "upload image" option. If you want to use imgbb or another image host first, you would simply select "by url" when using the insert image icon.

:peace:
I always used the Bbcode link for the old site and kept doing that for NFC. Don't you know if it matters which they're linked, or does either way work? I I usually link a smaller sized image than the original to in case some don't have high bandwidth connections.
 

vapviking

Old and In the Way
Messages
111
Location
USA
Dis-Assembly & Battery Replacement, Mighty (#MY0234XX, circa 10/2015)
-- New batteries, internal cleaning (June 17, 2020)

As I mentioned a couple posts up, the batteries came from @JCat , though idk the spec, they are either 3,000 or maybe 3120 mAh versus 2700’s that came out. His thread for replacement battery, instructions, video, discussion etc.:
Custom Crafty Battery Packs for Easy Replacement

Separately, there’s a pretty good Youtube (below) of a battery job on a Mighty, very helpful; there don’t seem to be many around.
I cannot vouch for the safety of the soldering practices in this video (I just don’t know enough about it).
He also did not point out the bottom latch clearly.
To open the case he used a 1.5 mm hex driver. I believe the 1.5 mm is probably correct, but I could not get mine to fit. I used a 1/16” hex driver instead. It worked fine right up to the end; on re-tightening the last bit I probably did some damage to the screw. I hope I don’t need to open the case ever again.
The Youtube does show the tabs and slots at the top clearly and how to slide the case open.

I hope I’m not too imprecise or redundant in my descriptions below. I was not intending a full-blown instructional-type guide, just some of my experience.

I exposed the screw holes with a sharp knife:


1 Screw holes.jpg

The two halves of the case interlock at three points, two at the top and one at the bottom. After removing the two case screws, remove the orange poker and under it is the tab to push. It is visible in next photo. Push in on tab and pry the halves apart slightly at the bottom seam using a screwdriver or poker. This took a minute or two; stubborn parts after years together.

Do not pull the halves more than about ½” apart at bottom -- they are attached by tabs at the top that can easily break. The Youtube shows these steps clearly.
You can see the 4 top tabs hanging down from the top edge in next photo. They fit into slots on the other half.

Slide the back cover up so it’s tabs clear their matching slots on the housing front cover. This also took some gentle persuasion. I did break both slots at the top, but one end of each did not break off, so I was able to re-assemble “okay” when the time came. Phew.
I now understand the reason some Mighty's seem to "come apart at the seam" along the top. The slots are not much sturdier than the little railings that break so easily near the chamber sides. The tabs you see here are stronger than the slots into which they fit.

2 Back cover inside.jpg

Next are existing internals. There is debris at the entry to the air path, seen in next two photos:

3 Internals.jpg

4 Air intake fuzz.jpg

And next shows the air path entry hole, cleared but not yet cleaned. It’s the crescent shaped hole at the bottom of the plastic case that holds the heater and its' housing, the heater's temp sensor and the chamber.

5 Heater assembly enclosure.jpg

The plastic housing and metal insert that holds the heater and chamber. The insert is shown again in the photo that follows this one.

6 Enclosure and chamber.jpg

Next photo is the insert assembly that houses the heater and the air path and has the chamber fastened to it.

The round hole centered at the bottom is where the heater tube inserts, and the semi-circular hole is the air intake.

The heater itself is a tube-like stick, seen on the mat in the background of the photo below. I did not get a photo of the heater’s temp sensor.

Note the black o-ring (was originally blue, silicone) around the outside of the chamber. I should have measured this, it should be s.o.p. to replace this as part of this procedure; maybe a guess of size can be made based on the chamber it encircles. The ring broke into 3 pieces and I did not have a match, but I did fashion one from some high temp silicone tubing and was able to move forward. Unfortunately, no pics of that either.

I soaked the metal insert (all aluminum?) in iso alcohol for about 90 minutes. You can’t see light through this tube; there is some sort of baffle at the top just below chamber holes, that prevents seeing anything inside the tubes. It would be fascinating to see the insides! I could not ascertain if or where the two paths might join together; didn’t spend much time exploring that.

7 Airpath_heater tube_chamber.jpg

Next are two pics of the new batteries.
@JCat soldered the leads on, added the proper plugs and wrapped all. Nicely done!
I swapped the temp. sensors on to them from the old batteries, and I also peeled/stuck some end covers from the old to the new. There was also a bumper stuck on top end of each battery, for snug fit.

8 Batteries prepped.jpg

9 Batteries prepped.jpg

All back in place in next photo. On the left-hand battery I did have to move the temp sensor a little to the right before the cover would fit on. It is a fussy fit, all the stuff in there!

10 Ready to close.jpg

As I mentioned, the two slots at top of case broke partially during opening, though they are holding well enough on assembly.
I also had to fashion an o-ring to replace the brittle one.
In the end, it all snapped together and looks just fine.
I replaced all the other seals, the chamber screen and the mouthpiece stem. I leave c/u screen off lately.

I admit that I wanted the chamber to look clean, so I used a very fine sandpaper on the aluminum chamber walls, just enough to clean it up. I’m sure this has created some fine scratches that will just trap gunk sooner, but I have been trying to use capsules a lot lately and using them keeps the bowl cleaner. I don't recommend the sandpaper treatment, btw. To the bowl, that is...

The draw is marginally better, I believe mainly due to the removal of lint/debris from the entrance to the airway. Deep cleaning (iso soaking) the air path had to help on some level as well.

The Mighty, when fully charged now heats in 1 minute, 15 seconds (29C to 180C). I believe this is faster than when new!
I've now got the "20% more battery power" Mighty.


Long may it run!
With a little luck, I won't need a Mighty+!

Thanks again @JCat for taking the initiative, and to @SquirrelMaster and @Stu for teaching me how to do photos here.
I've learned that 10 pix per post is the limit, good thing that's all I had...
 
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JCat

Well-known Member
Accessory Maker
Messages
51
Location
Ontario, Canada
Dis-Assembly & Battery Replacement, Mighty (#MY0234XX, circa 10/2015)
-- New batteries, internal cleaning (June 17, 2020)

As I mentioned a couple posts up, the batteries came from @JCat , though idk the spec, they are either 3,000 or maybe 3120 mAh versus 2700’s that came out. His thread for replacement battery, instructions, video, discussion etc.:
Custom Crafty Battery Packs for Easy Replacement

Separately, there’s a pretty good Youtube (below) of a battery job on a Mighty, very helpful; there don’t seem to be many around.
I cannot vouch for the safety of the soldering practices in this video (I just don’t know enough about it).
He also did not point out the bottom latch clearly.
To open the case he used a 1.5 mm hex driver. I believe the 1.5 mm is probably correct, but I could not get mine to fit. I used a 1/16” hex driver instead. It worked fine right up to the end; on re-tightening the last bit I probably did some damage to the screw. I hope I don’t need to open the case ever again.
The Youtube does show the tabs and slots at the top clearly and how to slide the case open.

I hope I’m not too imprecise or redundant in my descriptions below. I was not intending a full-blown instructional-type guide, just some of my experience.

I exposed the screw holes with a sharp knife:


View attachment 1616

The two halves of the case interlock at three points, two at the top and one at the bottom. After removing the two case screws, remove the orange poker and under it is the tab to push. It is visible in next photo. Push in on tab and pry the halves apart slightly at the bottom seam using a screwdriver or poker. This took a minute or two; stubborn parts after years together.

Do not pull the halves more than about ½” apart at bottom -- they are attached by tabs at the top that can easily break. The Youtube shows these steps clearly.
You can see the 4 top tabs hanging down from the top edge in next photo. They fit into slots on the other half.

Slide the back cover up so it’s tabs clear their matching slots on the housing front cover. This also took some gentle persuasion. I did break both slots at the top, but one end of each did not break off, so I was able to re-assemble “okay” when the time came. Phew.
I now understand the reason some Mighty's seem to "come apart at the seam" along the top. The slots are not much sturdier than the little railings that break so easily near the chamber sides. The tabs you see here are stronger than the slots into which they fit.

View attachment 1627

Next are existing internals. There is debris at the entry to the air path, seen in next two photos:

View attachment 1634

View attachment 1619

And next shows the air path entry hole, cleared but not yet cleaned. It’s the crescent shaped hole at the bottom of the plastic case that holds the heater and its' housing, the heater's temp sensor and the chamber.

View attachment 1620

The plastic housing and metal insert that holds the heater and chamber. The insert is shown again in the photo that follows this one.

View attachment 1621

Next photo is the insert assembly that houses the heater and the air path and has the chamber fastened to it.

The round hole centered at the bottom is where the heater tube inserts, and the semi-circular hole is the air intake.

The heater itself is a tube-like stick, seen on the mat in the background of the photo below. I did not get a photo of the heater’s temp sensor.

Note the black o-ring (was originally blue, silicone) around the outside of the chamber. I should have measured this, it should be s.o.p. to replace this as part of this procedure; maybe a guess of size can be made based on the chamber it encircles. The ring broke into 3 pieces and I did not have a match, but I did fashion one from some high temp silicone tubing and was able to move forward. Unfortunately, no pics of that either.

I soaked the metal insert (all aluminum?) in iso alcohol for about 90 minutes. You can’t see light through this tube; there is some sort of baffle at the top just below chamber holes, that prevents seeing anything inside the tubes. It would be fascinating to see the insides! I could not ascertain if or where the two paths might join together; didn’t spend much time exploring that.

View attachment 1623

Next are two pics of the new batteries.
@JCat soldered the leads on, added the proper plugs and wrapped all. Nicely done!
I swapped the temp. sensors on to them from the old batteries, and I also peeled/stuck some end covers from the old to the new. There was also a bumper stuck on top end of each battery, for snug fit.

View attachment 1624

View attachment 1625

All back in place in next photo. On the left-hand battery I did have to move the temp sensor a little to the right before the cover would fit on. It is a fussy fit, all the stuff in there!

View attachment 1626

As I mentioned, the two slots at top of case broke partially during opening, though they are holding well enough on assembly.
I also had to fashion an o-ring to replace the brittle one.
In the end, it all snapped together and looks just fine.
I replaced all the other seals, the chamber screen and the mouthpiece stem. I leave c/u screen off lately.

I admit that I wanted the chamber to look clean, so I used a very fine sandpaper on the aluminum chamber walls, just enough to clean it up. I’m sure this has created some fine scratches that will just trap gunk sooner, but I have been trying to use capsules a lot lately and using them keeps the bowl cleaner. I don't recommend the sandpaper treatment, btw. To the bowl, that is...

The draw is marginally better, I believe mainly due to the removal of lint/debris from the entrance to the airway. Deep cleaning (iso soaking) the air path had to help on some level as well.

The Mighty, when fully charged now heats in 1 minute, 15 seconds (29C to 180C). I believe this is faster than when new!
I've now got the "20% more battery power" Mighty.


Long may it run!
With a little luck, I won't need a Mighty+!

Thanks again @JCat for taking the initiative, and to @SquirrelMaster and @Stu for teaching me how to do photos here.
I've learned that 10 pix per post is the limit, good thing that's all I had...
Superb write up! Really nicely documented :)
 

blackstone

'claim Junkie
Messages
17
very strange, not 3d in my case just a cheapo sticker with mighty, volcano and crafty and their logos in the middle.Three stickers on a gold foil, nothing much, not even thick vinyl , they seems really cheap compared to the 3d volcano sticker which have some 3d structure which pops out. Did you received different ones than me? I did not received any card for registering and the mighty is from the fall of 2019.
@Chemdawg Did you tried some vegetable oil on the joint?
edit : can somebody speak about the updated materials on crafty +? is it cracking less?
@vapviking any benefits of registering it ? +1year warranty should be there
I never got a sticker with a Mighty so you are lucky, it seems all the gold is for their anniversary so.
When I googled I think I saw the ones you got?
sticker-Storz-and-Bickel.png

But they went a little step above for the Volcano Hybrid, they are textured decals with raised letters on a clear backing, and they're quite big.
It would have been really nice to get one of those badges they had a while back. I'll take ages figuring out where to stick these!
20200619_013222.jpg
 
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